OMG I hate this environment thing, change it back. Take the time to read some of the blog posts and tutorials. It is actually 10 times better than windlight. Hi and thank you for the new update I did not experiment with EEP at all until today but so far by reading at the links in your post and the wiki I have managed to set 24 hour time at my little parcel and choose a day setting which is pretty cool, and also convert and upload some of my old windlights, which I can see now in my sky setting if I want them.
It has those basic settings to make life easier. For people who have been on the grid a long time, Firestorm is a good option if you like to dig deeper into settings and do photography and so on. Again, this feels like a complaint that should be directed at Linden Labs.
Calm down. Instead of screaming and saying how hopeless everyone is, how about you actually give some more information about WHY you cannot download the new viewer, you have given NO information to help anyone here. If I had to guess, you have firewall or security software interfering, but I am purely guessing here as you have provided NO information about the specifics of the problem whatsoever. Helpful things would include a description of any error messages you have seen, what web browsers you have tried etc.
I hate the new environment settings my pics were better before this whole update. Why replace things that are working! I may have to roll back to the prior version to see if this new one receives some tweaks, particularly regarding the low FPS. Uploader hangs when trying to adjust LoD, could it be QA missed this obvious one? It is not usable as it is now.
Please try to upload a weighted mesh you will see what I mean. We cannot provide support in blog comments. Some things to keep in mind. Stop blaming them.
Carry on using your previous Firestorm viewer if you want to, at least for the next couple of relase cycles when eventually everyone will have to upgrade. There are presets in the library of environments that are similar to the old windlight presets. Look at them! EEP has been in development and testing for years. Everyone has had time to test and try it out before this release.
Most of the other 3rd party viewers have already included support for it and the LL viewer switched over months ago. Blah blah blah. Now tell me why frame rates are cut in half. There is nothing they added that should make me need twice the computer to run SL at the same level as before. I LIKE firestorm.
I have no clue how to get around on the regular viewer. This IS Firestorm. Just download the updated version of firestorm if you want to update to the latest.
I hate hate hate this eep no matter how hard i tried i cant get the neat light and shadows like i did with the older version going back to previous version now i do not like it. You can also, very easily, import windlight settings into the new environment. I imported all of mine in less than 1 hour. Most probably something else is the issue than Firestorm, if the Firestorm on your computer changed and your FPS dropped. With the new release, I am forced to use the new EEP.
I liked the slider bars that allowed me to set the time of day and so forth. Can we have a choice on a future release? Windlight is no more. EEP is what we have going forward. I guess I will be waiting until its a forced upgrade. I dont like eep, I dont like the removal of windlight..
I do not believe or feel or think eep is better than windlight in any means. EEP is going to stay, as its a core Linden Lab feature. EEP is going to stay, so better to read about it a bit. I am still trying to figure out the performance changes. I feel like I have higher FPS and faster texture loading on the ground where there is water and lots of landscaping.
It used to bounce around for me A LOT. Everywhere I go. If I got before I get 60 now. If I have 40 at a place I now get Funny how they answer people when they whine about environmental settings and completely ignore people complaining about the obvious performance issues. The reduction in fps appears to be related to Windows update KB Once I uninstalled this update my framerate returned to normal. Hope this helps anyone else having this issue. Please be careful with uninstalling vendor updates like this.
Windows may be known for faulty patches, but you may open your computer to some vector of attacks this way. I wish you would have put an option to go back to the old quick preferences window.
I would regularly use the time of day at the bottom to make it night with the slider. Now there is a lot more steps involved and it does not get nearly as dark. Why did u make it so you have to open a second window. Move the sun on the ball to the corner, then have to click the arrow to move it behind the planet, and it still is not as dark as i could make it with the easy to use slider before this build. This is needlessly complicated, and im not happy.
Use Phototools instead for quick environments. EEP is a Linden Lab feature and is going to stay. I concur. Now I have to jump through many hoops to get the same results as before with very little information, if any at all.
The decision to do this, in my opinion, was shortsighted, not taking into account the side effects. While I applaud the step to move things in this direction, removing things that we become dependent on is aggravating at best.
Would anyone like to explain the Dynamic Texture Memory thing? Not sure what its all about also fps seems to big quite a bit lower with this update -shrugs-. The old adage dont fix what aint broken doesnt seem to apply any more. I hate up dates. I hate the way the updates screw with the computer and it takes time and effort to get your firestorm back to exactly how you like it.
NO i dont like the hassle i just wish people would leave things alone but i guess you have to justify you existance some how. Chris I get you are frustrated, but judging by your comment, it seems there are some things you dont understand. Linden Lab developed this EEP technology, not firestorm, and third party viewers such as firestorm have to release the technology as part of the shared user experience in second life.
Linden lab are constantly making changes to the second life platform. Software evolves. Please try and see the bigger picture. Yes there is a risk of running into a bug you install a new viewer update, but did you know you are also at risk each time you install computer updates eg: windows updates , those very often screw peoples computers up. Do some reading on software evolution.
Firestorm has to stay current within I believe three versions of the Linden viewer. It is a requirement. An explanation on what each value means, how to use them and what the best values are or how to figure out the best values for your PC would be useful. Not everyone knows VRAM and how to figure this out. It would be useful if your Wiki was more detailed on how to adjust these settings and explain what each one does.
I found the FPS issue was related to the most recent windows 10 update. I uninstalled it, and my fps returned to normal. The windows update then reinstalled, and all is fine. Thank you! Maybe uninstalling that update will help the textures too. I hovered the cursor over the the sliders and labels. The information is clear as mud. Thanks for the tip tho. This version of Firestorm is a release version and has already been through the alpha and beta process of bug remediation.
Much lower than before. Still checking it and waiting to see if things improve. One change I am decidedly against is the change to Hovertips. It is now all or nothing: Show all hovertips or none. This is a very bad idea. I need to be able to see scripted object hovertips, NOT every plant, tree, table, chair, and God forbid you want to see one object details for something that is in the center of a collection of objects.
It is nearly impossible. Definite decrease in FPS over the last Linux version. As much as 10 fps lower. Tested in various locations. In my skybox I used to be able to maintain 60 fps, now it struggles and often drops below 55 fps. Hopefully you can fix this. I will be going back to the previous version after testing this new version for 2 days. I hate to say it, but this new version of Firestorm is total crap, since it is constantly freezing on me, and I have an extremely high end computer too, so that should not happen.
There is clearly some serious problems with this version. I might be uninstalling and going back to the last release version. In addition to the constant freezing, just as others have been reporting, my frame rates are way down, something like half of what they were before. I do like all the new features in this version, but what good are they when the viewer performance is so bad. Just to let it be known that my computer is powerful and should not be freezing or having low frame rates:.
Might have to rework this update. I rolled back cause of having the issues that alot of people on this page are talking about. This was one of the worst updates ever. And I am a big fan of most of your work. I recently updated my FS, and just as so many others are experiencing, my fps has been destroyed. I want to try out the update more, but the fps issue keeps getting in the way. EEP is a Linden Lab feature and the slider is gone for now.
Considering how laggy the Firestorm viewer has become, it needs to barrow some performance enhancement code from Alchemy Viewer, or even figure out their own code for making it run faster. At this rate of ever decreasing performance with each new release, eventually no one will be able to run Firestorm, not even people with fast computers.
Think it is time that Firestorm start to put performance enhancement as their main focus in their next few future releases. I have a brand-new custom-built computer I just purchased in April, and it is super awesome.
Well, it WAS, until this update. When pulling back or pushing forward with my cam with smoothing on in the Photo tools box at the bottom, Cam tab , side to side seems ok but in or out forward and back causes these weird jumps in increments.
I need this for video recording. I tried to get help in world and not a single person would respond in the chat. I know you are all busy, and I understand with a new release you must be flooded with questions — in fact, I saw that myself in the chat support. This is a serious concern. You can reach me in world or by email. This is time critical. I have a dance performance I need to video tomorrow. This useless cut-and-paste repetition of the same non-answer answers grows tiresome.
JIRA and inworld support groups are. The blog is NOT for support or reporting bugs! Do we need to put it in a size 72 font before people will take notice?? Pantera is giving the correct advice, please file a Jira ticket for support. Give that a go and see if it helps! I went from having between FPS on Mainland, to ! Not everyone skipped troubleshooting before posting. If anyone had actually bothered to try the usual avenues or bothered to read some of the out of place comments here they might have noted that for some Windows users a particular update was causing issues as well.
That does not change anything. Yes, the Firestorm staff cannot provide support in this comment section. I updated last night and I have crashed over 20 times — 7 times within 10 minutes. A bit ridiculous.
New bug? Chat color wheel is completely broken after the update. Why does everyone thank the Firestorm team for fixing the HD snapshot bug? This was already fixed in October in the Linden Viewer and all other viewers have adopted the fix.
The question should be, why did the Firestorm team annoy its users so long with this issue? And so, it was published in May. Why would anyone use wine to rune the windows version when the Firestorm team and other third party devs provide fully up to date viewers that run perfectly well under Linux?
He flat out said the best way to run SL under linux is to use Wine and use the windows version. Like it or not, the Windows version will always be the most up to date and best tested version.
Thanks FS team, but maybe you now need to widen your beta process to also allow OS people to beta test? But still, your sentiment at least for continuing supporting the many, many tens of thousands of players you were going to trash is at least better.
We would be more than happy if more people would like to properly test our viewer. No EEP? Why is Firestorm dragging their feet so much on EEP? Just merge it and be done.
What other QA are you doing that has not already been done in the official release? What I was given? A glass with boiling water, a tea bag and a cube of sugar. On a pretty plate, I must admit that. What possible value does firestorm add beyond what the Lab has done with their full time QA team and developers that wrote the code to begin with?
Feel free to drag your feet. You are just hurting yourself as people jump ship to other viewers that support EEP. These are the issues that are preferably to be fixed before the Firestorm EEP release, to provide best user experience. Just started Crashing last night at start-up, only with Firestorm , the previous version and other viewers work fine. This latest update has made Firestorm almost unusable. Pathetic would be a good description of this latest update. The load times are ridiculous, the crashes are constant, even with video settings turned way down.
Come on guys, test your stuff before you release it huh? Remember, we do not know your system configuration. I wanted request help with a bug. I did go to set up a Jira login as the support page suggested. Only I do not really like that where ever the mouse cursor is, tooltips show up on everything not scripted. This was not like this before this version.
I know I can turn it off, but I do like to see it when at a vendor, turning it off in prefs, turns everything off. And in debug, regardless if it says.. I saw someone commented that there was a popup showing the objects details for whatever was under the mouse… and I just saw that too with a fresh install where I did not have previously saved settings.
Is the default that such details show wherever the mouse is pointed even at simple non-scripted objects? Maybe the default ought to be that this popup under the mouse is off? Uhh, thank you for your wonderful work, however this time something went sideways cause whenever I try to take a pic it just uses up all of my 8 gigs of ram suddenly and I crash the heck out lol, never happened before, so I had to downgrade back to the old version, please fix this :C. Thank you for all you do! I am so so happy that flickr works again.
It is such a great feature. You all Rock!! You guys are a TEAM!! With a healthy and active support group! Can someone try to help me understand? And no EEP yet is just flipping ridiculous! The only thing that holds me back from ditching Firestorm and trying others is the built in AO I have been so attached to over the years.
Damn you Firestorm!!! And even with that choice EEP is so complicated, that needs a lot of polish and adjustments. Larger user base also comes with the need to test new shinies — or at least predict what could happen — on wider selection of machines.
If we make a mistake there would be a large quantity of users suffering from it, so we try to avoid it. Even if only for sanity of our support division. Be patient. Black dragon is just as cheap and got their EEP upgrade in way faster. Could you guys spend more merging code that already exists and less time making excuses? Pretty please? Ever since I have downloaded the latest firestorm for SL, I have been plagued with Windows 10 stop code troubles.
System Service Exception Ntfs. I have un-installed firestorm and re-install it again. I hope this works? I really like it. When I take photos at maximum size , after the first shot the viewer freezes and I have to close and I always look my photographic work during this process. Could you guys explain me why this happens? Once I updated the new viewer all of my items disappeared.
We cannot provide support or help in these blog comments. If you need or want help please contact our support team through the correct channels, like JIRA or inworld help group. Unable to DL the latest version, keeps giving failed network error. Have tried multiple different browsers, result all the same. Can you please unblock previous viewers?????? You are disadvantaging those of us who are not able to enjoy Second Life now because you forced to now update to something that is not working for many people.
Since I was forced to update to this version because you have now blocked older viewers, I am missing out on Second Life. I never ever crashed with the 6. Bring older viewers back. The reasons why they were all blocked does not help me at all. I have looked at that crash link, and I also posted in the Firestorm support group on SL. I did reduce everything, and like I said, I only see blobs because I had to lower everything to such a low level.
I might as well have the old viewer back. At least I could see people and enjoy my SL world my way. If it is my computer, well none of that helps me, does it? I was always fine with the other viewers, this update, and the one before this one, I constantly crash. Over there, more of the support staff will take a look at your problem. Is there reason that the slplugin has a hidden adware that is trying to push riskware site called seconmp.
Unless that is planned? The new update was fine and then 2 days again BOOM. Everytime I try to take a picture it crashes me, no matter how low my quality settings are. Is there a fix for this? But not here, as we cannot provide support or help in these blog comments.
If you need or want help please contact our support team through the correct channels. Older hair rarely displayed that issue, it looks like some new way to make hair that became more trendier recently, and now they are making more and more new hair with that bug. I am not able to get group gifts from groups i am in or rezz items in places not of the group i am currently stuck in. When uploading textures it says, subscription based fees are lowered etc! This is the official wording from Linden Lab and subject to change at any given time once Linden Lab changes for for Premium and the still to see Premium Plus memberships.
I have tried to find info but — I was on a slightly older version. Not by much, a version back maybe. I went to take a picture — crash. No freeze, no error. Flat out crash. OK, fine. Updated to this version now. Should fix it I assume — but no. Same thing. Hit camera icon? Just on spot crash. Is there a known fix for this? A lot of sunrises and sunsets are backward. Heck, some even have the sun rising and sitting in the north and south. Please do wait for EEP based Firestorm viewer and re-check sky settings.
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